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Sniperjoe
11-12-2006, 10:26 PM
with the Democrats taking control I have ben very afraid for firearm rights, I myself am a law biding firearms enthusiest and I personaly LOVE the second amendment. As far as what i heard there has ben no damage done to gun rights, but I also know that Democrats are notorious for being anti 2nd Amendment so if anyone could help me with some information on the subject it would be greatly appreceated

btown02
11-13-2006, 01:45 AM
Welcome to the forum. It's still a little early after the election to panic. Wait till they are seated. :)

m1p90
11-13-2006, 06:21 AM
In Massachussetes, Deval Patrick the new Govenor is already proposing that NO ONE should have more than 20 firearms or more than 1000 rds of ammo. If they do, it will be classified as an arsenal and will be subject to unannounced spot checks up to 3 times a year. Also a one gun a month limit on firearm purchases.
We'll see how far this gets.

HAPPY HAPPY JOY JOY

Medula Oblongata
11-13-2006, 07:32 AM
I think what Sniperjoe was referring to was on the National scale.

Only time will tell, ultimately, however I'm not putting the aluminum foil beanie on yet.. The AWB of 94 is what caused the loss of both houses, and the Dems don't seem eager to repeat that fiasco.

Lets be optimistic (and watch BOTH of their hands).

Sniperjoe
11-13-2006, 04:51 PM
The main reason i am so worried is because after the Democrats took power i got worried and went on there website and found out that they went to a pensylvania town to try to get the 1 handgun a month law passed and also to ban all assault / "military type rifles" banned statewide.
I dont like the 1 handgun a month law but i can live with it, but the compleat ban on assault rifles is totaly insane, that would mean that no one would be allowed to onw things like FS2000s or PS90s , now it is only in Penn. but if im correct theyl eventualy try to get it done nation wide

btown02
11-13-2006, 04:57 PM
but if im correct theyl eventualy try to get it done nation wide
We've been there and done that. The National AWB expired just a short time ago, and they still remember what happened when they passed it. I think that they will think long and hard before they try it again.

f3rr37
11-13-2006, 05:32 PM
we can only hope.

Maybe the Dems will backdown when "V" visits them: http://www.givemeliberty.org/RTP2/UPDATES/Update2006-11-11.htm

Sniperjoe
11-13-2006, 05:35 PM
i guess you guys are right, its just that with Clinton running for persident, im afraid that she will win and try to change things (guess im just a little tramutized from the 1994 fiasco lol), Is she very popular anywhere besides NY. I live in NY and i know shes very popular here ( so are anti firearm librals) so ive ben very worried about the whole assault rifles thing but i guess its not guna be passed so im happy about that

Killbot
11-13-2006, 06:46 PM
i guess you guys are right, its just that with Clinton running for persident, im afraid that she will win and try to change things (guess im just a little tramutized from the 1994 fiasco lol), Is she very popular anywhere besides NY. I live in NY and i know shes very popular here ( so are anti firearm librals) so ive ben very worried about the whole assault rifles thing but i guess its not guna be passed so im happy about that

The poll I heard this morning was 33% would vote for her and 45% aganist. In most of the country - she is seen for the bitch she is.

Megatron
11-13-2006, 07:31 PM
The main reason i am so worried is because after the Democrats took power i got worried and went on there website and found out that they went to a pensylvania town to try to get the 1 handgun a month law passed and also to ban all assault / "military type rifles" banned statewide.
I dont like the 1 handgun a month law but i can live with it, but the compleat ban on assault rifles is totaly insane, that would mean that no one would be allowed to onw things like FS2000s or PS90s , now it is only in Penn. but if im correct theyl eventualy try to get it done nation wide

I live in Pennsylvania and none of that nonsense has passed. Yes, that fat worthless POS crook that we call a governor, Ed Rendell, wants the 1 gun purchase per month and other asinine crap passed, but it looks like he won't be getting his stuff passed at all. The Republicans have retained control of the state senate and it looks like the Republicans will still keep control of the state house as well once the recount is done.

A good portion of the Democrats in Pennsylvania are pro-gun.

Sniperjoe
11-14-2006, 06:07 PM
I heard today that guliani backs gun control, is this true

Megatron
11-14-2006, 06:38 PM
I heard today that guliani backs gun control, is this true

When he was mayor of NYC, he was anti-gun.

Medula Oblongata
11-14-2006, 06:52 PM
Not only is Guiliani anti-gun, but he "...firmy supported the prohabition on military style assault weapons in our communities... They pose more of a danger to our Law Enforcement Officers than all of the illegal handguns in the city. They serve no other purpose than to spray bullets that can defeat Police body armor... They are designed to kill and serve no legitimate sporting purpose..."

I heard him say those words on a CNN interview in 1994...

He may be a "fiscal conservative" (by that he means overtaxing everyone equally) but by no means is he a supporter of the Bill of Rights...

He's just another Herbert Hoover... Steal from EVERYONE and give to the rich..

If Guilliani is elected president, I really WILL be moving to New Zealand.. They may require licensing of gun owners, but the license is easy to get and One may own nearly anything they want. Good weather, fishing, (women) food, etc. too... And for the record, this isn't an Alec Baldwin threat either. I drew paperwork yeasterday to apply for a work visa. Apparently they have severe labor shortages in the technical and skilled trades...

I may be a "Kiwi" before the end of the decade..

rips31
11-14-2006, 06:55 PM
We've been there and done that. The National AWB expired just a short time ago, and they still remember what happened when they passed it. I think that they will think long and hard before they try it again.
what is this awb 'expiration' that you speak of? :rolleyes:

btown02
11-14-2006, 06:57 PM
what is this awb 'expiration' that you speak of? :rolleyes:
For the free States. :D

Medula Oblongata
11-14-2006, 07:24 PM
what is this awb 'expiration' that you speak of? :rolleyes:


I keep forgetting that you live in Nazi occupied Kali-fornia..

Now here's something to pump you up!

The Greyhound station is just down the street from the Hyatt.. $59 gets you a ticket to Free America, and you don't even have to share a dangerous tunnel with Charles Bronson.

Sniperjoe
11-14-2006, 07:39 PM
well then what possible pres. candidates are pro 2nd amendment

btown02
11-14-2006, 07:43 PM
well then what possible pres. candidates are pro 2nd amendment
Wait about a year and and we'll know for sure.

rips31
11-14-2006, 08:59 PM
I keep forgetting that you live in Nazi occupied Kali-fornia..
hehehe...it's the democratic people's republic of kalifornistan, for you free-staters. :D

Megatron
11-14-2006, 09:10 PM
well then what possible pres. candidates are pro 2nd amendment

U.S. Rep. Duncan Hunter (R-California) has announced that he'll be throwing his hat into the ring. Yes, he is very pro-gun.

Sniperjoe
11-14-2006, 09:40 PM
U.S. Rep. Duncan Hunter (R-California) has announced that he'll be throwing his hat into the ring. Yes, he is very pro-gun.


I havent heard anything about anyone but guliani, McCain, Jeb Bush , Kerry or Clinton running for pres. , i ll be putting my vote to the most pro gun, ( hopefully hunter will run)

Sniperjoe
11-15-2006, 06:56 PM
i saw a poll yesterday that gave hunter 0% of the votes, is he popular at all?

Megatron
11-15-2006, 07:25 PM
i saw a poll yesterday that gave hunter 0% of the votes, is he popular at all?

Those polls are so biased.

Another pro-gunner who may be running is soon-to-be former Sen. Rick Santorum (R-PA).

Another soon-to-be former senator who may run for president is George Allen (R-VA), who is also very pro-gun.

Sniperjoe
11-15-2006, 09:04 PM
thats good, what about McCain?

Sniperjoe
11-19-2006, 09:36 PM
who would be better to have in house for the second amendment, clinton or Guliani

btown02
11-20-2006, 02:38 AM
who would be better to have in house for the second amendment, clinton
Now that right there is funny. :D

Sniperjoe
11-20-2006, 09:49 PM
yea i know there would be a big problem with either one of them, but if it comes down to the 2 of them running who would be the better choice for the second amendment

m1p90
11-21-2006, 07:18 AM
We saw what happened the last time a Clinton was in the White House. We DO NOT want to go down that road again. Unfortunately I would vote for Guliani or McCain and cross my fingers.

Sniperjoe
11-21-2006, 03:24 PM
if they got elected what could stop them from passing a law like banning all assault rifles

btown02
11-21-2006, 03:29 PM
if they got elected what could stop them from passing a law like banning all assault rifles
Common sense and Congress.

Sniperjoe
11-21-2006, 06:20 PM
isnt conngress now predominately anti firearm?

btown02
11-21-2006, 06:23 PM
isnt conngress now predominately anti firearm?
As is the answer to most of your questions on this topic, only time will tell.