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Nosferatu
08-15-2006, 03:38 PM
First off, I know, anti-gun blah blah. Don't bother me with that crap right now.

I very rarely sell things on ebay, but I just found a few items for a motorcycle I no longer have that might be of value to someone else, plus I decided to sell a mountain bike I don't use anymore. I have 5 items total that went up for sale.

Everything sells, I get the payments via paypal and everything gets shipped out.

On 4 of the 5 items, the buyers filed a complaint with paypal saying the items have not been received. WTF? I have tracking info for all of them and have updated the paypal claim with these tracking numbers.

The first thing paypal does is yank the funds from my account! No thought given to the fact I need that money for other items. I just bought a rifle on Auctionarms I would REALLY like to be able to pay for, but can't now because paypal has decided to lockup the funds!

So, what I believe is going on is these people are trying to get the items for free by making bogus claims via paypal hoping they will side with the buyer.

Paypal says it can take them 30 days to make a decision.

Great. 30 days that MY MONEY is being locked up by this non-bank. I guess I am officially done with paypal now. I tried to give them a chance, but they just screw you any way possible. They don't give a damn about any of their customers. Of course, I can't cancel my paypal account until these claims have been resolved, so I'm basically at their mercy.

Any chance I can get my bank to deny any withdrawls by paypal? I guess I need to get down there today and find out.

btown02
08-15-2006, 03:43 PM
As long as you have the tracking numbers they will find in your favor and the longest time it has taken for me to get one resolved has been 10 days. Still a pain, but the person filing the false claim was booted off of Ebay and Paypal. There are a lot of people on Ebay that try that scam, that is why I always ship with a tracking number and insurance.

p99guy
08-15-2006, 04:03 PM
thats the ****s to be done like that....

f3rr37
08-15-2006, 04:19 PM
Yeah, had the same thing happen to a friend, paypal said that the address wasn't verifiable and basically he's screwed out of $750 and the processor he sold.
Two tips for selling on Ebay:
1. Don't sell to anyone outside of the US.
2. Make sure that their address is verified with Paypal.

Nosferatu
08-15-2006, 04:45 PM
I have one tip for selling on ebay:

US Postal Service money orders ONLY

jmz5
08-15-2006, 05:31 PM
you can have you bank block paypal transactions, a buddy of mine got his savings wiped out buy a scam, when he confronted the bank, they said that HE took the money out at a mac machine in indonesia

rips31
08-15-2006, 06:08 PM
wow. i had a friend that sold something. someone filed a claim and so she refunded the money and the buyer shipped it back. too bad it was a cheap knock-off of a diff model.

i'm pretty sure that with your tracking number, you'll be fine.

anoldsman
08-16-2006, 01:59 PM
wow. i had a friend that sold something. someone filed a claim and so she refunded the money and the buyer shipped it back. too bad it was a cheap knock-off of a diff model.

i'm pretty sure that with your tracking number, you'll be fine.


Unfortunately that is not only a pay pal problem. When I worked for Lunati Cams we would get some customers that would ship back engine parts and then have their credit card company refund the money. The problem was that they would return a stock engine assembly worth maybe $100 total when they ordered and received a performance assembly worth $5,000+. The only thing that the credit card company wanted to know is if we accepted the parts from the shipper. Once we said yes they always refunded the money to the bogus customer. After a while, we required non credit card payment up front for any assembly unless the customer had an account in good standing with us. The few bad customers will always ruin it for the majority of good customers.
I hope that they fix your account quickly. I know first hand how hard it is to have a purchase ready and then have to wait for somone else to get off their a**.

Chris

Nosferatu
08-16-2006, 02:05 PM
I found a link to another payment method that is pro-gun. Check out www.gearpay.com

I'm going to start switching over the subscription payment method to gearpay. No more paypal!

btown02
08-16-2006, 02:06 PM
Thanks for the link.

panzermk2
08-16-2006, 06:18 PM
you would think the guy in charge of this site would have read my posting awhile back about ebay and paypal. How a employee of paypal that is owned by ebay cleaned out our savings and checking account.
Nos I feel for you, but I came very close to driving to CA, going to ebays parking lot and waiting for the President to walk out to his car and shoot Him for what they did to Me and my family

panzermk2wife
08-17-2006, 03:42 PM
Luckily I noticed the money was taken out in about 1 hr. after it happened to us. Because I am anal and check our account at least once a day with the automated system. I got on the phone immediately with Paypal and told them what happened, filled out the forms they emailed me. Then first thing the next morining I called my bank and told them what had happened. So long story short-They never did find out who took the money, but withing 5 business days the almost 3k was back into our account from paypal. I opened a new bank account with our bank, transfered all the money over and closed the old account.

Good luck with your paypal issuses. You should prevail seeing since you have tracking information on these transactions.