View Full Version : Handling guns makes men agressive - study

Medula Oblongata
07-31-2006, 01:30 AM

Handling a (gun) makes men's testosterone levels rise -- and makes them more aggressive.

The finding comes from a study by psychology student Jennifer Klinesmith and her professors at Knox College, Galesburg, Ill. Klinesmith designed the study, in which 18- to 22-year-old college men participated.

Klinesmith told the men they'd be taking part in a study of the effect of attention to detail on taste sensitivity. She collected a saliva sample for testosterone testing. Then she led each man into a room where he sat at a table with an object on it. The man had to take apart the object and put it back together according to instructions.

For half the men, the object was a pellet (gun) that mimicked a Desert Eagle automatic (handgun). The other half of the men worked with a child's game called Mouse Trap.

Fifteen minutes later, the men gave another saliva sample. Then they were asked to taste a lidded 3-ounce cup of water with a drop of Frank's Red Hot Sauce in it.

Finally, the men were given a 3-ounce cup of water and a bottle of the hot sauce. They were told the water would be given to the next man in the study, and that they could -- anonymously -- put as much hot sauce in the water as they liked.

This hot-sauce trick has been used before. The more aggressive a man is feeling, the more hot sauce he tends to put in the next guy's drink.

Sure enough, testosterone went up about 100 times more in the men who handled the gun than in the men who handled the children's toy. And the gun handlers put three times more hot sauce in the water -- on average, about a half ounce -- than the toy handlers.

The more a man's testosterone went up after gun handling, the more hot sauce he put in the water.

"Such findings raise many of the usual questions about whether the presence of (guns) in modern society contributes to violent behavior," Klinesmith and colleagues conclude. "Although our study is clearly far from definitive, its results suggest that (guns) may indeed increase aggressiveness partially via changes in the hormone testosterone."

Indeed, after debriefing, many of the men said they were disappointed that the water they'd spiked with hot sauce wasn't really going to be given to another unsuspecting man.

The study appears in the July issue of Psychological Science

WoW!!! I guess all the athletes who use synthetic testosterone are going about getting their fix the wrong way! Just have them all hold a (gun) for a few minutes and they will become muscle-bound frothing at the mouth beasts!

What a bunch of C R A P. Notice how the study cited "similiar studies" on HOT SAUCE use to determine agressiveness? I personally LOVE hot sauce and use copious amounts of it on almost everything (Frank's is a little to weak for my tastes, I like Thai Sate and Vietnamese Siaracha much better). That must mean that Im super agressive and likely to *kill* at any moment. Lets get Sarah and the Brady bunch on the phone! They can petetion the BATFE to regulate sales and delivery of pepper sauce. 1 bottle per month, 15 day waiting period, background checks, and a lock on the top to ensure that children can't get the cap off!

What is most disturbing about this "study" is that some university (which means the taxpayers) funded it! Don't they have something better to do, like searching for a cure to cancer or diabetes? Or even looking for a cure to toe nail fungus that doesn't make the user more ill than the fungus!

This type of study was engineered to have only one outcome, and it was politically motivated. Watch and see how long it takes the Libs and the Brady's to jump on this study and quote it as law when demanding tighter prohabitions on (firearms) ownership. Also interesting is how they didn't study the "affects" of touching evil arms on women, no that would be too simple.

I propose a new test. Lets have 100 women handle a toaster or blender, another handle dirtly laundry, and then lets measure their level of agressiveness! Oh, wait, I was just hoping to have some women come over and clean my house... But if this "scientist" got a grant to study pepper sauce and BB-guns, why can't I get money to study the agressiveness of women after they have to clean up after my lazy butt. I bet the women would empty the whole bottle of sauce into my water...

07-31-2006, 04:12 PM
have them make dinner w/3 screaming kids, too. lol...this study is a load of bs. i go thru a costco-sized bottle of tabasco every month. heck, i practically drink it like it's v8. handling a gun won't make me put any more or less in the darn cup.

07-31-2006, 04:14 PM
hrmm... I can't help but wonder if they conducted the study using the right terminology.

"This is my rifle, this is my gun...." ;)

Edit: Ok ok, yes I did read the article, but I couldn't help it... I'm feeling silly today.

07-31-2006, 08:47 PM
have them make dinner w/3 screaming kids, too. lol.

I hear you on the 3 screaming kids. Right now I am helping my mom this week. She has my 2 nephews 7 & 2 1/2 plus I bring my 3 (4 1/2, 20mths & 6mths) over and I can't wait to get home.

07-31-2006, 08:52 PM
how dare they tarnish the good name of hotsauce

07-31-2006, 09:44 PM
I like the demographic they chose, 18-22 years old.

You could hand a pretty much anything to boys that age and their testersone levels skyrocket...sports car, motorcycle, playboy, etc. etc.

Nice "study". It's amazing what you can "prove" when you already know what results you want.

07-31-2006, 09:45 PM

08-01-2006, 02:49 AM
I saw this one on CBS too. It is a little something called "Liberal media bias." Writing stories like this also raises the Liberals' testosterone levels, and if it is a gun story on a mainstream news network, they just love to put the Liberal Brady gun grabber tyrannical anti second amendment little disclaimer that, "remember.......this story is about guns and guns are bad and gun owners are dangerous",,,,,,,makes them feel so righteous and intellectually superior.
"When the people fear their government, there is tyranny; When the
government fears the people, there is liberty."- Thomas Jefferson

"Among the many misdeeds of the British rule in India, history will
look upon the Act depriving a whole nation of arms, as the blackest." --
Mahatma Gandh

08-02-2006, 03:18 PM
Handling Women makes my Testastarones rise..(see can't even spell)....mmmm i need some tabaco sauce... Got to go..i'm hungry!!!! :MM

08-02-2006, 05:40 PM
haha, i think that is the same for everyone, lol
except rips, he does live in san francisco :p

08-02-2006, 05:47 PM
hahahaah, i dunno ive heard stories about PA.

08-02-2006, 06:05 PM

08-02-2006, 07:27 PM
yea, but even here in sf, there's still some of us that like 2-legged humans. :D

08-02-2006, 07:38 PM