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panzermk2wife
07-28-2006, 03:45 AM
Neighbor Charged With Murder in Death of 5-Year-Old Utah Girl
July 27, 2006
Associated Press


SALT LAKE CITY Prosecutors on Thursday charged a man with kidnapping and aggravated murder in the death of a 5-year-old girl, saying he confessed to smothering the girl, then sexually assaulting her a crime that could bring the death penalty.

Destiny Norton had been missing for eight days when police found her body Monday night stuffed in a plastic storage box in a cellar at the man's house just two doors away, prosecutor Bob Stott said at a news conference to announce the charges Thursday.

The neighbor, Craig Roger Gregerson, 20, will be appointed a defense lawyer at a court appearance scheduled for Friday, he said

Authorities added a few details about the girl's disappearance and why police couldn't find her body the first time they searched Gregerson's tiny row house unit. The final search came after Gregerson confessed to killing the girl and directed police to a storage container hidden in a "tight, confined basement with a lot of material down there," Stott said.

Gregerson told police he lured Destiny into his home the night of July 16, and that she protested. "Destiny wanted to leave and became very vocal," Stott said.

Stott said Gregerson covered the girl's mouth, then carried the limp body into his cellar. An autopsy determined Destiny was smothered to death, then sexually assaulted.

The aggravating circumstances in the murder charge come from kidnapping the girl and desecrating her body, said Stott, who added he hadn't decided whether to seek the death penalty.

"Before any sentence can be given we have to get a conviction," Stott said.

Destiny's family reported her missing the night of July 16. Police and volunteers searched the city and nearby canyons for eight days before her girl's body was found.

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In a story ran on July 19, 2006 the parents say they got into an argument with their 5 yr. old daughter and disappeared from their front porch.
http://www.foxnews.com/story/0,2933,204359,00.html

Why would you let a 5 yr. old child out anywhere by themselves for a second? God knows I don't let my 4 1/2 daughter outside unless I am out there with her at all times.

EARS
07-28-2006, 09:57 AM
A local radio talk show host, Bob Lonsberry works here and also has a program out of Utah. They talked yesterday about this. Today it's on a column he has (boblonsberry.com). I don't know that Gergerson could be placed on a target stand and everyone do a little shooting practise. The parents, that's another story. I just can't see how, especially after having an argument, one of my children could have every gotten out of my house without me knowing it. I don't know, but I hope authorities check hard into the parents if there are any othe children in the house.

jmz5
07-28-2006, 10:41 AM
the news keeps on getting better and better doesn't it? :(

panzermk2wife
07-28-2006, 12:17 PM
Yeah there are some really sick people out there.

jmz5
07-28-2006, 12:39 PM
plenty of sick people

panzermk2
07-28-2006, 01:58 PM
I bet he has a history of this also.

How come the Libs state that if your Gay, you were born with that sexual orentation and it can never, should never be changed.

Then in the case of a sexual preditor who was born with that sexual orentation that they all can be rehabilitated and turned loose on our children?

Medula Oblongata
07-30-2006, 06:18 AM
I bet he has a history of this also.

How come the Libs state that if your Gay, you were born with that sexual orentation and it can never, should never be changed.

Then in the case of a sexual preditor who was born with that sexual orentation that they all can be rehabilitated and turned loose on our children?

A simple answer to your question:

Libs are mentally retarted and consumate liars. Think of "The Pathological Liar" from Saturday Night Live. "Yeah, thats the ticket!"

psssed90
07-30-2006, 08:05 AM
Can you imagine the guilt on the part of the little girl's family?

I gave my now 4 year old blisters on his hand while trying to cook pasta and hold him at the same time. He dipped his hand for just one second as I turned away to the sink. That same week was my brother's wedding. The pictures of my little boy's hand wrapped up haunts me to this day and gives me a constant reminder of how fragile life can be.

Letting your 5 year old kid out by themselves is rediculous. I rarely let my teens go anywhere unless it is like the mall or movies. Our neighborhood seems safe enough but, you never know and like I always say it only takes one bad event to change your life.

I don't mean lock your kids up until 18 but, come on now. There is no argument with a toddler. A responsible parent should know right from wrong which means the toddler even if he or she doesn't understand your view still should be provided sufficient protection from any harm or danger.

Household accidents is one thing but, this just really psssed my off. The guy should fry!

Medula Oblongata
07-30-2006, 12:44 PM
This little girls parents deserve to be wracked with guilt. There is NO excuse for allowing a 4 year old to wonder about the neighborhood unsupervised, NONE. Of couse there is absolutely no excuse to abduct, murder, and assault that 4 year old either. No, I don't think CPS should investigate that family either.

Turtle
07-30-2006, 01:07 PM
I bet he has a history of this also.

How come the Libs state that if your Gay, you were born with that sexual orentation and it can never, should never be changed.

Then in the case of a sexual preditor who was born with that sexual orentation that they all can be rehabilitated and turned loose on our children?
Excellent point, however you can't present logic to a liberal, they don't get it, become frightened and start calling you names. :SS

psssed90
07-30-2006, 10:33 PM
Originally Posted by panzermk2
I bet he has a history of this also.

How come the Libs state that if your Gay, you were born with that sexual orentation and it can never, should never be changed.

Then in the case of a sexual preditor who was born with that sexual orentation that they all can be rehabilitated and turned loose on our children?

Also, some of them are probably gay themselves and would admit to it more so than being a more than touched in the head killer.

No, I have nothing against gays.

panzermk2wife
07-30-2006, 11:51 PM
Yeah our neighborhood seems pretty safe to, but I never let my 4 1/2yr. old daughter outside by herself either. She is very trusting and that scares me sometimes.

jmz5
07-31-2006, 09:13 PM
our neighborhood used to ne nice in safe, but in the past few years there has been quite a bit of drug abuse, the in thing in the the druggies do here is snorting pills like oxcontin and perciset, and other things, i dont have any kids but i keep a close eye on the wierdos that wander through the neighborhood looking for their next mark.

panzermk2wife
07-31-2006, 09:42 PM
We have 98% older people. They are old enough to be my grandparents. The other 2% are couples with small children like ours.

jmz5
07-31-2006, 09:44 PM
we have a lot of old and young, i think the younger ones would be alright if they wouldnt have found drugs, not everyone is on drugs here, but the few who are ruin it for the ones that arent

panzermk2wife
07-31-2006, 09:48 PM
yeah hear you on that. I don't know why they get hooked on them I have never tried drugs and have no disire to. I have seen what it does to people and that was enough to keep me away from them. Just like drinking, I can count on one hand how many times I have drank since marrying Panzer in 2001. I really hate the taste of it.

jmz5
07-31-2006, 09:52 PM
I drink on occasion, but yea, there are probably more people abuse alcohol than drugs here

billdeserthills
08-06-2006, 04:31 AM
I sure don't understand why if this guy is a self-confessed murderer, is the state going to have to provide an attorney. Does anyone even have to wonder what kind of punishment this guy should receive, or even if there could be any question of the guilt of a self-confessed killer?

P.S. About Drugs, I started using marijuana at 16,hash, coke, lsd, mushrooms, meth etc... soon followed, at least as soon as I could afford it. Used drugs for 15 years, one day back in 1997, I quit using the above illegal drugs, and I doubt I could be tempted to use ever again. I know that drugs were bad for me, but I do believe in a person's freedom to cause harm to themselves, if they should wish to.

Medula Oblongata
08-06-2006, 06:02 PM
I sure don't understand why if this guy is a self-confessed murderer, is the state going to have to provide an attorney. Does anyone even have to wonder what kind of punishment this guy should receive, or even if there could be any question of the guilt of a self-confessed killer?

P.S. About Drugs, I started using marijuana at 16,hash, coke, lsd, mushrooms, meth etc... soon followed, at least as soon as I could afford it. Used drugs for 15 years, one day back in 1997, I quit using the above illegal drugs, and I doubt I could be tempted to use ever again. I know that drugs were bad for me, but I do believe in a person's freedom to cause harm to themselves, if they should wish to.

I have a Libretarian view of life. If someone wants to use ANY drug, is of the legal age of majority, AND is financially able to afford his drug of choice, I say "more power to him." I Don't care if some trust fund baby sits all day long in a drug administration hospital (like the one's in Holland) and shoots up heroin. I don't want to see it on the streets (because heroin addicts make terrible speed bumps). However I don't believe that the government has any moral authority to ban certain drugs, while allowing alcohol and tobacco (the most widely abused drugs, and the some of the most hazardous to the body) to remain legally sold.

It is a duplicitous standard that the government has set forth, one that breeds only contempt.




Why does this "confessed killer" deserve a publicly funded attorney? Because it is a constitutional guarantee to have assistance and representation when charged with a crime. It is his right, should he so choose, to refuse counsel and instead represent himself. In most situations, however, it would be foolhardy. This puppy NEEDS a really good lawyer. He has admitted to the murder and abduction of this child, so that won't be in dispute. The claims now will be whether he was in control of his mental faculties or not. At the very least an attorney will be able to get him treatment while he is sitting on death row. make no mistake, this guy is going to die. Sidebar- In Utah, the condemned is allowed to choose his method of execution (Hanging, firing squad, lethal injection).

He is an utterly despicable man, if he can even be called a man. He is more like an insect, and as an insect, should either be squashed by a giant shoe, or sprayed with "Raid" until his feet don't kick no more. :machinegu :eek: