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JustLikeDreams
07-24-2006, 12:21 AM
i'm still pretty new too this board, but i have read alot of the information on here, and it seems like you guys know pretty dang well what you are talking about, i'm 21 years old and working on getting into the field of law enforcement, and i have always thought that experience is the best teacher. With that said, if any of you guys that have been working in the field and serving your communitys for all these years feel like donating any advice, do's & don't's, or even just general information about what to look for in selecting a job/department, please feel free. any information you have, i'm sure i can use. right now i live in illinois but i don't know yet, if i intend on staying in this state, so again any information (even if it dosn't pertain to illinois) would be appreciated. Thank You :sheriff

whitetiger7654
07-24-2006, 12:24 AM
Check the pay before signing up. I know it sounds selfish but our government doesn't pay our Law Enforcement or teachers enough. Remember whatever you choose now may become your career for life. Can the pay not only support you now but also a family 15 years down the road.

Do you have a college degree? If not you may want to look into that first. Maybe get a job with a company that will help with the cost of school.

walter34payton2002
07-24-2006, 12:52 AM
I am not a cop, but I came close to joining a few times and may still join in a year or two. I know that I was looking for a department that sponsers (for the academy), especially if you can't pay out of pocket.

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kamo
07-24-2006, 09:12 AM
Most police forces around my area require a college degree. I would check with some in your area. Also, the pay thing is very important. When i used to work with night clubs, we always had police officers working outside just for the little extra money. Also, if your married our have a long tern signifacnt other, i would check with them due to the fact of the possible hours and dangers of the job.

rips31
07-24-2006, 03:22 PM
first question...are you looking for national, state, or local leo? makes quite a difference.

if you want local, sfpd is hiring. they'll pay you to go to the academy. however, they're a half-continent away.

panzermk2
07-24-2006, 11:27 PM
first question...are you looking for national, state, or local leo? makes quite a difference.

if you want local, sfpd is hiring. they'll pay you to go to the academy. however, they're a half-continent away.


more like half a freaken world away, had to go there

rips31
07-25-2006, 03:06 PM
lol...well, he wouldn't be in kansas anymore, toto. hahaha...his laws are less restrictive than ours.

JustLikeDreams
07-25-2006, 05:25 PM
i actually just moved back to illinois after being in the bay area for about a year, it was a nice enough place.... i would consider going back.... i also wanted to thank everyone for all the replys to my question it has helped narrow down some things for me.....

iowaaggie
07-27-2006, 06:46 PM
Check the pay before signing up. I know it sounds selfish but our government doesn't pay our Law Enforcement or teachers enough.


Not only the pay, but also check for the other benefits, (health insurance costs, residency requirments and retirement plans). It seems wierd for a young guy to worry about retirement but that might be the most important feature.

I know the Seattle Police Department has about 800-openings, (about a third of the department). They can't find people to work for them and they have sent out national recruiting teams. They have a strong union, no residence requirment, (you can live anywhere) they do not a state income tax, and best yet, the pay is around $47,000.00 to start. They have a retirement plan of 20-years with cost of living increases in retirement! A laid back city, great people, low crime, and lots to do.

I am a police officer in Iowa. After 16-years, I am still in the low 30's, (in general the midwest has the lowest pay for cops in the country). Our retirement system does not have cost of living increases, (so if you retire at 22 years, and inflation is at a unbelievably low 2 percent per year, in a decade you have lost 20 percent of your paycheck).

Yes, it is more expensive to live in Seattle, or other great areas, but the pay is better, and once you retire, you can move back to the midwest and live like a king, because you retired at a high level of pay, (hence why NYPD officers move to Missouri).

I figured out that if I complete 22-years in Iowa for retirement, (and can not draw until I am 55) I could go to Seattle, work 12-years, until I can draw from both plans, my Seattle retirement would be more than Iowa. 22 vs. 12 years.

Best suggestion, keep your nose clean, keep in shape, show a stable work pattern, and department will knock themselves over to hire you. People are not applying for LE like they used to and the baby boomers are retiring at a fantastic rate. I have read a lot of articles from other chiefs about difficulty recruiting.

Also, subscribe to American Police Beat. They have several pages dedicated to job ads.

Most important: 1. Base Pay, 2. Benefits, 3. Cost of Living, 4. Your personal preferences, (climate, available activities in the area, (sports, culture) 5. Civil Service and Unions.

psssed90
07-27-2006, 07:45 PM
Oh, I thought someone was getting attacked by group of college gymnasts. My bad. (LEOs?... never mind)