View Full Version : Bill Jeans Advanced Hangun Class for Real World Experience in MI. Don't miss out!

06-17-2006, 10:15 PM
We are very fortunate to have Bill Jeans of Morrian Consulting coming into town for his Advanced Handgun class.

Just a couple highlights of Bill's background; he held various positons with Gunsite from an adjunct instructor to Operations Manager and Chief Range Master. He was a Sargent with the Clovis Ca. PD for many years and was responsible for training (firearms) his dept as well as the CA State Officers academy. Currently he operates Morrigan Consulting which is a professional tactical weapons training and consulting firm formed in 1998. The company offers advanced operator training for line officers and qualified private citizens. And last but not least is a reserve deputy in AZ.

This intense 3 day course will supplement the student's existing handgun training with advanced gunfighting skills based on the the Modern Technique of the Pistol and real-world experience. Course material includes practical marksmanship, gun-handling, continuity of fire, malfunction clearances, shooting with movement, mental conditioning for combat, use of cover, wounded drills, one hand manipulation, ground fighting, weapon retention, and more. It incorporates full contact defensive tactics with live fire shooting.

Many of us here have our CPL's BUT how many people really have the training to handle a life of death situation?

"You won't rise to the occasion- you'll default to your level of training" Barrett Tillman

It is very important to practice your marksmanship at the range but unfortunatley in the real world when in a high stress situation the bad guy wont be standing still and you will be shaking from all of the adrenaline pumping through your body. Through proper training you will learn how to handle situations like this. You already have the tools, most people understand the basics but this is your chance to get the same training professionals get.

Please go to http://www.triad-tactical.com/ for more information.
This class is July 14th - 16th. Don't wait to get information and sign up, do it now.
All contact information is listed on the site.

06-17-2006, 10:16 PM
good post, welcome to the forum

06-17-2006, 10:17 PM
Welcome to the forum.

06-17-2006, 10:46 PM
Thanks Everyone!
As you can see I joined quite some time ago when I bought my 5.7 and have read the boards a few times here and there.

My 5.7 is still NIB. I bought it as I thought it would be a good investment but now I dont think it will be so I might as well just shoot it and enjoy it or sell it to someone else who will appreciate it.

I have shot my friends and LOVE it but I just have not found that it would be practical for my needs other than having fun with it.

06-18-2006, 07:24 PM
My 5.7 is still NIB. I bought it as I thought it would be a good investment but now I dont think it will be so I might as well just shoot it and enjoy it or sell it to someone else who will appreciate it.

A lot of people bought them thinking that if they were banned they would turn into a goldmine. I'm glad it turned out to be a bad investment. :)

06-18-2006, 09:11 PM
JYogi - The best investment is not always how much money will it return, but how well it will save your life.

06-18-2006, 11:48 PM
EARS of course, I understand that but I would be far more likely to run out the door with my .45 and either my AR or my bolt action tac rifle.

I think they are GREAT for the people who want them buy myself I was all over the world with various rounds and now I have really started to narrow it out and now it is at the point where all of my pistols are either 9 mm or .45. I really think I may sell the FN and let someone who will enjoy it have it. I just do not have personal confidence in the round enough for real world use. I know there are PLENTY of specs that prove its power and abilities but its just my hangup.

Im gonna end up taking a bath on the thing as I had to be one of the first guys to get one on the block. Oh well, my fault haha.

06-19-2006, 09:26 AM
I was semi-joking. I'm a lover of the 45. I have carried one for almost 40 years. I still have a H&K USP full size and a H&K USP Compact. They have been my favorites, except for the 1911 for many years. My 57 has over taken the first prize placing right now. I've never bought a gun for the value it might reach. I've always bought for a specific need or carry. Have a great day. Hope I didn't offend you.

06-19-2006, 07:11 PM
Offend me?
hahahahaha NOOOO you couldnt that easily!

You carry the 5.7???
Do you really feel it has enough power to be used to save your life OR is it that you think the HIGH cap. makes up for the lack of power? Yes, I know a .22 can be used to save ones life BUT you are going to do MUCH more damage with a bigger hole (.45)

When I was at Gunsite some guy brought a 5.7 for a handgun class and the instructor just laughed at him and started citing all these tests where the 5.7 did not penetrate thick heavy winter clothing. Now I am not saying the instructor was right or that he wasn't just a old timer who didn't like anything new but it really made me questions the usefulness of the 5.7

What did you buy your 5.7 for and what do you use it for.

06-19-2006, 07:23 PM
I stopped using my Sig P220 45 and started using the 5.7 as a duty weapon. There are several Officers on here that use the 5.7 as their duty weapon, so I would say there are a lot of us who think it has enough power to get the job done. The question of what it was bought for and what it's used for has been talked about before and does not need to be hashed out again in this section of the forum. It sounds like you've been listening to the wrong people when it comes to the 5.7 and stopping power. You can find one of the older threads and pick up your questions there if you wish to continue. Thanks.