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jmz5
05-18-2006, 11:35 AM
As long as we were talking about cookies, grilling is not far off. Which do you prefer to grill your steak.
:cheers:

kamo
05-18-2006, 11:54 AM
I personally am starting to like propane, due to the fact that its quicker. I can go out in the back, turn a knob, and press a button. Its almost no time to heat up and cleaning is much easier with less mess. Now I can't deny that charcoal gives it that true bbq taste, i really dont like waiting for the coals to get up and going and then having to clean it up afterwards is a pain.

jmz5
05-18-2006, 12:00 PM
I use propane mostly, because its quicker and cleaner. once and a while I get the charcoal grill out tho.

rips31
05-18-2006, 04:14 PM
nothing beats the flavour of meat cooked over keawe wood.

Medula Oblongata
05-18-2006, 05:57 PM
I bought a monster two grill Brinkman professional grill from Sams Club last year (independant zones and grill height adjustments with removeable firewall between grills and seperate thermometers) but was not satisfied with it. So I converted it to gas lighting (put two propane grills beneath the charcoal trays) and so that I could rotisserie things over very low (constant) heat for hours if needed, or instantly light the charcoal for a party (or the charcoal gets wet cause the kids left the lid off the charcoal bin...)

I like the grill very much, and its only $200 at Sams Club, but they do not have a picture of it on the internet, and its a Sams only item. Brinkmann does not even list it on their website. If you are near a Sams its worth taking a look at, but bring a friend if you buy one, they weigh, including packaging, a little over 200lbs.

I prefer the taste of natural hardwood (mesquite or hickory) charcoal, but ground up Jack Daniels barrel chips make a tasty smoke when added to regular compressed charcoal too. Gas is convenient when you want instant and perfectly controlable heat. I figure a combination of both is the best of both worlds.

jmz5
05-18-2006, 08:18 PM
i have seen thos jack daniels chips, they are expensive tho, i might give them a try next time i fire up the charcoal grill

Mr. Burns
05-19-2006, 08:11 PM
Weber propane. ;)

jmz5
05-19-2006, 08:13 PM
weber knows how to make a nice grill

Mr. Burns
05-19-2006, 08:20 PM
weber knows how to make a nice grill
+1to that, I'v had 2 so far, A genesis B the first I owned went to my brother in law when Weber came out with a stainless I had to have. It was 5 years old then with no problems and my bro. in law has had it 2 yrs with no problems. It pays to buy the best. :D

Crunge
05-20-2006, 12:47 AM
Charcoal usually imparts a better flavor (or at least more familiar to those of us over 30) but gas is so much easier...

The real key is to use wood chips or good sauces and rubs. Most barbeque in my area is done with mesquite, but I far prefer hickory. Get a decent little smoker box, put in some hickory chips you've soaked for a few hours, and get it good and smokey. You'll find excellent flavor added to the meat. Hickory works well with beef, pork, and especially mutton.

Rypht
05-20-2006, 01:16 AM
someone's been watching too much King of the Hill

jmz5
05-20-2006, 05:11 PM
lol, whats wrong with king of the hill :D

btown02
05-20-2006, 05:34 PM
The game or the TV show?

jmz5
05-20-2006, 06:12 PM
tv show

btown02
05-20-2006, 06:15 PM
Another one I don't watch.

jmz5
05-20-2006, 06:35 PM
its funny

captain prozak
05-20-2006, 08:12 PM
Sorry, fellas, but here is my .02. I am a BBQ cook off competitior and my feeling is that if you want to cook with gas, drag your stove out in the yard! Coal and wood, cook better, and leave better flavor. Sorry to disaggre with most of you, but I am sure the 25 to 50 competitors at each cook off that I go to would agree...... :MM

Targetguy
05-21-2006, 02:53 PM
I like Charcoal. have you seen the new pellet BBQ's. They work like a pellet stove only in a BBQ. there pretty cool

panzermk2
05-21-2006, 08:22 PM
Use both and both are Webers.
Since I'm up north and gril all year round when its 20 below zero I like the way gas starts fast. Although in those temps if you do decide to go charcaol once you get it lit it burns alot hotter in those temps.

jmz5
05-21-2006, 09:28 PM
webers are great, i broke a wheel and couldnt find one anywhere, called weber, they sent me a free one

panzermk2
05-21-2006, 11:45 PM
DITTO my igniter crapped out from use and they over nighted one for free

panzermk2wife
05-22-2006, 02:55 AM
weber knows how to make a nice grill

Yes they do.

I bought one for Panzer for his 1st Father's day and he uses it all the time :)

jmz5
05-22-2006, 11:43 AM
i have the porcelain cooking grates, nothing sticks to them and they dont rust.

Rypht
05-22-2006, 01:58 PM
I bet btown shoots all his five-sevens really fast, quickly strips the barrels out of the guns and grills burgers on them before they cool off

btown02
05-22-2006, 01:59 PM
I bet btown shoots all his five-sevens really fast, quickly strips the barrels out of the guns and grills burgers on them before they cool off
The only way to grill. :D

jmz5
05-22-2006, 04:49 PM
would be cooked by gunpowder then?

btown02
05-22-2006, 04:52 PM
would be cooked by gunpowder then?
Nope, just good ol' hot metal. :)

Medula Oblongata
05-22-2006, 04:57 PM
The best barbeque I ever owned was made by Detroit Diesel... Yup, I said Detroit Diesel, the engine manufacturer. I used to travel around a lot going to horse shows (AQHA) and my horse trailer was so large I bought a Volvo 770 heavy tractor to pull it around with (600hp Detroit with dual stage turbo). I would often wrap up meats in foil and suspend them over the turbo (which reached temperatures of over 1100 degrees ferenheight) and cook my food while driving down the road. If you have never cooked off your engine, you are missing out on life.

One time I bought a duck while in Memphis and began cooking it while heading towards Little Rock... Well, needless to say, the grease from the bird leaked out onto the turbo and caught fire... I wasn't concerned with a little smoke and flame, so I kept driving, the people passing me were awful upset though and so was that AR state trooper. When I showed him I was just cooking my duck he had lunch with me and said the guys at the Barracks would never believe it if he wrote me a ticket...

jmz5
05-22-2006, 05:00 PM
now thats a sight to be seen, getting pulled over for cooking lunch on an engine, lol

panzermk2
05-23-2006, 01:06 AM
GOD I have not done that in years! When I was a kid my dad did that on his 69 FJ40 on the way out to the black hills from chicago. It's a fast disappearing art now that there are so many stop and goes these days. Like camp fire burgers made in the coals rapped in foil with veggies and such. My next road trip I am going to make something on the 4.0Lt

Rypht
05-23-2006, 03:13 AM
I've never done that myself but I know a few people who would do that, back when gas was cheap of course, go out for a long drive and camp out somewhere, before they leave put some meat in several layers of foil on the engine and off they go, when they get there it's nicely roasted and ready to eat

jmz5
05-23-2006, 10:08 AM
when i was younger i went drinking er i mean camping with my buddies and we cooked a lot of food in the campfire

psssed90
06-08-2006, 08:21 AM
I have always been "pro" propane. In culinary school that is all we used. I like the control factor for hot and cold sides and can use wood chips for that smokey flavor. As for camping, a small portable propane tank can be used for cooking then lighting when it gets dark. My father was always a coal cooker but, as the years progressed it was easier to turn a knob instead of lugging a bag of coal to the grill, dumping into a not so clean grill dodging the dust cloud of ash , and dealing with the mess afterwards.

As a young kid in my pyro days I was drenching the grill with flame fluid and the flame traveled back to the bottle. The top caught on fire so I tossed the bottle down on the driveway. I saw no flame but, heard like a simmering sound. I leaned over about 1 foot away for a closer inspection...... BOOM! Although it was more like a big pop it knocked me on my rear and had a ring in my ears for several moments after.

This little story is not the reason liking propane more but, the thread just popped that memory in my head.

Hmmmm, time to burn some ants outside. :D

kamo
06-08-2006, 09:29 AM
hahahahahaha, i think all of us has had one of those memories... Mine included a string of blackcats and a ant pile and no common sense.

psssed90
06-08-2006, 12:25 PM
My brother and I went a step further and used to take fish tank air lines and suck up gasoline. We would then light the ends and blow a hugh flame into ant piles. The last time was when this kid Matt who later to this day I am still friends with caught on fire when my pyro evil thoughts got the best of me. Thanks god for those saturday morning commercials telling kids to stop drop and roll. :D

jmz5
06-08-2006, 12:39 PM
haha, we have the stupid moments to look back upon, mine included fishing with cherry bombs and those little co2 cartriges filled with gunpowder and a wick

psssed90
06-08-2006, 01:48 PM
haha, we have the stupid moments to look back upon, mine included fishing with cherry bombs and those little co2 cartriges filled with gunpowder and a wick

(thinking evil thoughts) grin.

Well, my pyro days may have come to an end with childhood but, there is no way I will give up our annual bottle rocket wars on the 4th. PVC pipe can make a bottle rocket pretty accurate by as much a 50 feet. Blackcats are my fave.

I want to add to this repy tha I do use the propane grill for 4th of July ribs pre pressure cooked.(Apple B's technique)

ZappaRam
06-08-2006, 02:17 PM
Mostly propane because of convenience. When having outdoor BBQs at park though, I still use charcoal there.

drdrewusaf
06-08-2006, 04:34 PM
Well, I have a dead mesquite tree in my backyard, so I will start w/ charcoal. Then, when the fire dies down, I cut off another branch and toss it on. I will keep with this system until there is nothing left to cut off.

I always use charcoal. I cant stand the taste that propane puts in my food. I can wait the extra 10-15 minutes for heating up. Besides, after wards I can bring the chracoal tray up nice and close and roast some marshmallows.



Drew

psssed90
06-08-2006, 04:42 PM
http://www.foods4u2cookhome.com/blog/?p=4

Just food for thought on "possible" health risks linked to charcoal cooking. I agree about it tasting better but, it makes you think abit.

drdrewusaf
06-08-2006, 05:06 PM
Think about what? The carbon monoxide? You breath carbon monoxide everyday...thats what comes out of your car's tailpipe...

Thats the ONLY health risk they have listed for CHARCOAL grills, the bottom part is safety tips for grilling in general, not just charcoal.


Drew

psssed90
06-08-2006, 08:58 PM
Think about what? The carbon monoxide? You breath carbon monoxide everyday...thats what comes out of your car's tailpipe...



"Did you know that grilling meat increases the production of compounds that are linked to a greater risk of certain cancers? According to an article published by the American Institute for Cancer Research (AICR), researchers have found evidence of heterocyclic amines (HCAs) in meats that are cooked on outdoor grills."

There are ways as stated after this quote to reduce the amount of hca's but, some people do not think it is a big deal.

ZappaRam
06-08-2006, 09:01 PM
Eh...everything in moderation. There's enough carcinigens in peanut butter to give you cancer if you ate it every day.

panzermk2
06-08-2006, 09:28 PM
+1

jmz5
06-08-2006, 09:32 PM
i agree, everything will kill you if you eat or drink too much of it

drdrewusaf
06-08-2006, 10:18 PM
I also agree, but it doesn't say the CHARCOAL grills up the ante, ALL grills (gas or charcoal) OUTDOORS up the ante.

I'll probably end up getting cancer from drinking water...

kamo
06-08-2006, 10:26 PM
^thats what beer is for!!!

jmz5
06-08-2006, 11:24 PM
yes, beer is the cause of, and solution to all of lifes problems, lol

kamo
06-08-2006, 11:25 PM
jhahahahaha, no its not. but it sure does make things funny that usually aren't.

jmz5
06-08-2006, 11:28 PM
it sure does, i even had to do some cleanup for my self this morning after i seen some posts i made last night, lol

kamo
06-08-2006, 11:29 PM
yeah, this friday i hope im not near a computer..... friends bday bbq.... all i can say is there will be more bottles of goose than beer.

Prometheus
06-09-2006, 01:50 AM
I really enjoy the taste of charcoal at times.

Most times I am too impatient for coal. Also, with propane you can get a better 'clean' taste when grilling chicken and fish. IMO anyway.

Both are awesome, but if I could only have one, it'd be propane. Speaking of which I have to refill my tank for the weekend.

Sniper111
06-09-2006, 04:22 AM
NO substitute for charcoal and a little wet hickory or mesquite. Starting to drool now thinking about a 2 1/2" thick porterhouse with a salt/basil rub.........