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Rypht
05-13-2006, 04:47 AM
Army deals blow to body armor maker DHB Industries

BY JAMES BERNSTEIN
Newsday Staff Writer

May 10, 2006, 10:02 AM EDT


In what could be the biggest challenge yet to financially-struggling body armor maker DHB Industries Inc., the Army today said it is looking for companies to design an entire new generation of such equipment to replace the Westbury-based manufacturer's Interceptor vest.

The Army said it wants ideas from companies by May 31 "to improve on and replace" DHB's Interceptor Body Armor.

DHB, one of the country's largest makers of body armor for U.S. troops, can also submit new designs, but it is likely to face increased competition, according to industry watchers.

Larry Ellis, DHB's president, told Newsday.com this morning the company is already working on designs to compete for the next-generation Interceptor vest.

"Quite frankly, I think we've got the best design out there," said Ellis, a retired Army four-star general. "We did the first (Interceptor) and continue to do them." Ellis said DHB has no guarantee of winning a contract for the next-generation of vests.

But, he said, "We have a good chance of winning. We know more about that vest than anyone."

Ellis said the Army has not disclosed how much such a contract would be worth to the winning company, or when a winner would be selected.

"We're well into it," Ellis said. "We've got one of the best R&D teams around."

Armor Holdings Inc. and Ceradyne Inc. are both likely to enter any such competition to replace DHB's Interceptor, now in use by troops in Iraq and Afghanistan. The Interceptor vest is also used by the New York City police department and other law-enforcement agencies.

The Army said it wants a lighter next-generation body armor system that is more comfortable, while also improving a soldier's ability to move about a battlefield. The next-generation item would also have to make it easier to carry fighting loads.

DHB's vest consists of an outer tactical garment with yoke and collar, throat and groin protectors, and removable small arms protective inserts.

The Army says the next-generation vests must allow soldiers to easily enter and exit emergency combat vehicles. It must also have a way to cut off the complete body armor system in an emergency, such as an injury caused by a bullet or a knife.

The Army said all designs will be considered.

This announcement is only the latest blow to DHB.

The company said in April that it may have to re-state its earnings for "one or more" of the first three quarters of last year. It has also said it must delay the release of its annual report.

Congressional investigators say they are reviewing the Pentagon's entire body armor program, including the Interceptor vest made by DHB's Point Blank Armor subsidiary in Southern Florida. Investigators say they are worried the vests might not be adequate to protect troops. DHB says it stands by its products.

DHB has also been hit by multiple shareholder suits alleging a "pump and dump" scheme designed to earn top executives large sums from stock sales while they issued "false and misleading" statements about the company's financial prospects. DHB has denied any wrongdoing.

http://www.newsday.com/business/ny-bzdhb0511,0,6522238.story?coll=ny-business-leadheadlines

jmz5
05-13-2006, 09:12 PM
bad for one company but better security for our troops

panzermk2
05-14-2006, 02:28 PM
I was talking to N.G. bridge builder who just got back and one of the problems with the current armor is, NOW get this they have problems when a bullet strikes the plate in the current armor the bullet more aften as not slides across/up the plate and if the guys not lucky hits him in his ARMPIT or worse chin.
Never gave that part much though but it makes sense hard armor deflects instead of absorbing.

I keep with my tank

p99guy
05-14-2006, 05:33 PM
they had much the same problems with the hard armor "chicken plates" helicopter crews wore in the VN war...the late one had a lip added to the top to lesson the chance of bullets being deflected up and into the throat or head.

panzermk2
05-14-2006, 08:14 PM
YEP sounds like the lip used on armor chest plates to keep the other knights josting lance from going up under your helmet and ripping your head off.

The more things change the more they stay the same

panzermk2
05-14-2006, 08:26 PM
http://i39.photobucket.com/albums/e169/panzermk2/kneckarmor.jpg

jmz5
05-15-2006, 12:21 PM
a bullet in the chin or the armpit would most definately ruin your day

Rypht
05-15-2006, 12:37 PM
I just hope the army is serious about finding the best gear and not just moving on to the next biggest lobbyist. The can play these games far longer than than is sane.

p99guy
05-15-2006, 12:50 PM
well, not that im a big fan of the govt destroying stuff they surplus......but that will be a whole heap of very effective body armor arrive on the market....wide spread use by gang bangers and two bit thugs of interceptor vests is not my idea of a good time....well I guess the Five Seven in domestic police service, and as a CCH will really take off then.....

jmz5
05-15-2006, 12:54 PM
i dont think we have to worry about the bangers getting the vests, they arent white t-shirts so they wont wear them :D

namekid
05-15-2006, 12:55 PM
They NEEDED to go to the Dragon Skin Armor made by Pinnacle a LONG time ago:
http://www.defensereview.com/modules.php?name=News&file=article&sid=872

Rypht
05-15-2006, 01:34 PM
They NEEDED to go to the Dragon Skin Armor made by Pinnacle a LONG time ago:
http://www.defensereview.com/modules.php?name=News&file=article&sid=872

Well I didn't want to come out and just say it :P

But yes, the Dragonskin Armor is really impressive stuff and our soldiers should be using it. At least the Airforce shot down the Army's lies about the stuff, funny how the Army got quiet after that and then next thing you know they want companies to submit "next generation" body armor in under 30 days to replace the Interceptor armor.

http://www.pinnaclearmor.com/video/ak47-9mm-outdoor.wmv Great video showing how effective the armor is.

btown02
05-16-2006, 12:42 PM
Nice head gear Jerry.

jmz5
05-16-2006, 07:24 PM
that is a sweet helmet

panzermk2
05-16-2006, 09:40 PM
very. But one must ask, Whats the price range on ht open market?

jmz5
05-16-2006, 09:43 PM
more than i could affoard, lol :)

Rypht
05-16-2006, 11:12 PM
one sold on ebay on May 1st for $350... to jerry LOL

jmz5
05-18-2006, 01:16 PM
you did snatch a good deal

Sniper111
05-28-2006, 11:32 PM
Anyone ever wear a Paraclete? Damn most uncomfortable heavy and restrictive POS I have ever seen and used LOL

GREAT deal on the brain bucket. I NEVER get deals like that

Prometheus
05-29-2006, 12:55 AM
Well I didn't want to come out and just say it :P

But yes, the Dragonskin Armor is really impressive stuff and our soldiers should be using it. At least the Airforce shot down the Army's lies about the stuff, funny how the Army got quiet after that and then next thing you know they want companies to submit "next generation" body armor in under 30 days to replace the Interceptor armor.

http://www.pinnaclearmor.com/video/ak47-9mm-outdoor.wmv Great video showing how effective the armor is.

Time to make my interceptor the backup. I want that vest.