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Rypht
04-12-2006, 05:39 PM
Got a question for you all, probably a dumb question. Then again, they do say the only dumb question is the one you don't ask. :cool: I may be traveling to california in a couple months and I've got a friend there who would love to try out the Five-Seven so I figure I'll probably take it with me.

Here's the question, now with California's hi-cap laws, would it be wise to invest in a 10 rnd mag and take that with me rather than bring the 20's that came with the gun into the state?

parlier61
04-12-2006, 05:58 PM
Dont worry so much about that. For California residents, they need to only purchase 10rd mags. The law bans the importation, sales, loaning of high capacity magazines between Calif. residents.
There is no law against the posession of hi-caps that were purchased before the law went into effect.
Hi-caps are regulated in Calif, there is no law against the poss. of them.
As long as you are with your friend when he fires the FN with the hi-caps, that is fine.

Calif is bad, but not as bad with the laws as some may think.

rips31
04-12-2006, 06:56 PM
i'd advise checking packing.org and see what they hafta say. but parlier is right, if you're an out of stater, you're probably ok bringing in your *standard* capacity mags. :machinegu

natrab
04-12-2006, 06:59 PM
I'm going to have to disagree.

It is unlawful for any person to manufacture, cause to be manufactured, import into the
state, keep for sale, or offer or expose for sale, or give or lend, any large-capacity
magazine. (Penal Code 12020(a)(2).)

If you bring it into the state, CA resident or not, I think you can be arrested. It seems like a fine line. Problem is some CA judge may think that by bringing them in, you "imported" them. There may be an exception if you're a LEO.

jmz5
04-12-2006, 08:17 PM
It makes me glad i live on the other side of the country, have a safe trip

Medula Oblongata
04-13-2006, 11:47 AM
This is an interesting topic. California Atty. General Bill Lockyear has determined that posession of a "hi cap" magazine by a non-resident is permissible, as long as the individual is not in CA more than 10 contiguous days. At 10 days you become a de-facto resident and are subject to their laws. At that point you wild be importing the magazine and that is a no-no. It is also ILLEGAL for you to "transfer" the "hi cap" magazine to another individual while in CA (this includes handing them the magazine to hold) even a family member such as a child or parent.

Under the law, should a person with "pre-ban" firearms and magazines expire, they are obligated to turn over the weapon to CA DOJ for disposal without delay and without compensation. It is illegal to transfer "hi cap" magazines and "assault weapons" from the origional owner to another person, regardless of circumstance or relation. They must be given to the state.

I have never hear of a person being prosecuted for handing a "hi cap" magazine to anyone to shoot with, but its the law just the same.

rips31
04-13-2006, 12:34 PM
goodness...mo's knowledge extends out to our (blue)neck of the woods? :) don't surprise me, tho.

kamo
04-13-2006, 12:39 PM
who needs wikipedia when you got MO.

Paratrooper117
04-13-2006, 01:22 PM
who needs wikipedia when you got MO.
+1

ruf
04-13-2006, 02:00 PM
This is an interesting topic. California Atty. General Bill Lockyear has determined that posession of a "hi cap" magazine by a non-resident is permissible, as long as the individual is not in CA more than 10 contiguous days. At 10 days you become a de-facto resident and are subject to their laws. At that point you wild be importing the magazine and that is a no-no. It is also ILLEGAL for you to "transfer" the "hi cap" magazine to another individual while in CA (this includes handing them the magazine to hold) even a family member such as a child or parent.

Under the law, should a person with "pre-ban" firearms and magazines expire, they are obligated to turn over the weapon to CA DOJ for disposal without delay and without compensation. It is illegal to transfer "hi cap" magazines and "assault weapons" from the origional owner to another person, regardless of circumstance or relation. They must be given to the state.

I have never hear of a person being prosecuted for handing a "hi cap" magazine to anyone to shoot with, but its the law just the same.
MO - could you please provide us with the background information for this? This is a huge issue for private citizens that want to attend training courses in the PRK.

btown02
04-13-2006, 02:09 PM
MO - could you please provide us with the background information for this? This is a huge issue for private citizens that want to attend training courses in the PRK.
Look it up on their web site.
http://www.caag.state.ca.us/firearms