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psssed90
04-10-2006, 06:11 PM
I was thinking of getting a biometric gun safe for the home and auto for trips. This one came up after a brief google. I just wanted to bounce suggestions and or ideas. I wanted a smaller storage container that could be accessed without much or no light. I also wanted a safe that could be opened in an instant. I have toddlers so all my fire arms are in my 5 1/2 foot big beast of a safe. A smaller one for my home defense Colt 45 and 380 would be nice. I am new to the fingerprint / biometric tech an wondered if anyone had tried on or knew someone that did.

http://www.safetysafeguards.com/site/402168/product/BG-12-002

This is a good travel size and can be bolted via metal plate to the floor of your bedroom or motor vehicle. $400 suggested retail now on sale for $299. to your door with the mountaing plate included.

Feedback please.

jmz5
04-10-2006, 06:15 PM
i dont have any experience with these safes but I want my next large safe to be biometric, i would also like to here reviews from other people who have had experiences with these safes

rips31
04-10-2006, 06:32 PM
dunno abt this one, but costco had a small one for the home. not bad. just make sure that you have a key override...don't wanna be trying to scan your print if the batteries are dead.

psssed90
04-10-2006, 06:39 PM
I am hoping that the technology is advanced enough to make these dependable. I have seen larger stand up safes with the biometric system that was thousands of dollars. I like the wall mounted versions as well. I think I will not be in a rush to get into my large safe as much as I would to get to my quick access pistol vault/safe for that unexpected unwelcomed guest. I also like the fact that I can mount in the car and van for those extended trips or late night dashes to the local convienent store for my wife's late night cravings.

The most important thing to me is that my kids can't get into it and the fact that there is atleast two steps in getting my pistol(1. thumbpress and #2 open container). I would hate not being awake enough and firing upon someone I know thinking it was a bad guy)

Come on, with all you guys on the forum surely some of you input on this subject.

Rypht
04-10-2006, 07:30 PM
http://www.fingerprintsafe.com/GM200.htm here's another biometric gunsafe, slightly more expensive than the one psssed90 posted, just another option. I don't see an external key access, but it does allow AC power to be used so if it's battery is dead you can always plug it into the wall and it'll open. Says the fingerprint data will be stored in memory even if the battery dies.

psssed90
04-10-2006, 09:15 PM
I saw those on my search as well. I liked the one in my original post because of the handle and the manual key over ride entry. My father said his manual electronic safe is just as good and for a cheaper price but, you know, this is the future for gun storage. The next thing I saw on I think it was a discovery channel program was reticle identification where the eye is scanned. I think a cool thing would be to have the biometric system on the actual gun itself. I thought I saw that somewhere. Hmmmm? Anyways, unless anyone has another gun safe to recommend I think the one I picked is a winner.

FreeManDan
04-10-2006, 10:07 PM
I always wanted a fingerprint safe, but I chanced my mind about wanting one when I joined the Coast Guard and the computer at Dallas MEPSCOM couldnít scan my finger prints. The lady processing me gave up after an hour of trying. They scan each finger separately and want each one 95% readable or better, but the best finger scan was 80% readable and the worst scan was 40 something that we submitted to MEPSCOM. Iím standing there with my finger on this contraption, looking at the monitor as it shows a black blob and a number of how readable my print is, and Iím thinking I better stick with a punch code system if I ever get a speed safe. Now it might work for you, but make sure the groves in your finger prints are deep, cause you see mine arenít.

gunsho919
04-10-2006, 10:37 PM
dunno abt this one, but costco had a small one for the home. not bad. just make sure that you have a key override...don't wanna be trying to scan your print if the batteries are dead.

I have to agree. from dead batteries to an EMP. If this is going to be your primary safe then make sure it has a mechanical key override.

psssed90
04-11-2006, 09:30 AM
Good input guys. My fingers have deep grooves and yes, the safe has a manual over ride and no this is not my primary safe.
I just hope the darn thing can read.

20reasons2run
04-13-2006, 05:41 AM
http://www.smarthome.com/74663B.HTML

Here's a nice wall mount unit that has fingerprint access, touch pin access, and hidden key access. If you are a Bond fan you can hide it behind a picture, but I would guess most of us would put it in our closets behind our camo. The only thing I do not like is that it is relatively shallow. I would have to put brackets in it so it would hold more pistols.
BTW....the site also has many things, gadget freaks may like.

jmz5
04-13-2006, 08:01 AM
my dealer has a few fingerprint safes, I've wanted one on a stand up safe, but after all the scetchy details, i am going to try one at my dealer first before i buy one.

psssed90
04-20-2006, 12:20 AM
I ended up ordering this safe with a mounting plate. It should be here Friday around noon or after. I will post review. I went to several places that had these on back order status so for a some extra bucks i had one ordered from Cabelas.

http://www.cabelas.com/cabelas/en/templates/links/link.jsp?id=0027330227066a&type=product&cmCat=search&returnPage=search-results1.jsp&QueryText=safe&N=4887&Ntk=Products&Ntx=mode+matchall&Nty=1&Ntt=safe&noImage=0

jmz5
04-20-2006, 09:17 AM
looking forward to a review

cerebrus
04-20-2006, 01:25 PM
I am very leery of biometretic items. I use a biometric timeclock at work and it only takes my print about 20% of the time. Not much more to say.

jmz5
04-20-2006, 02:37 PM
thats one of the reasons thats holding me back from getting one, i need it to woork 100% of the time

Esteves
04-20-2006, 03:11 PM
False negatives (lockouts) are one aspect to consider. False positives (inadvertant/unauthorized access) are the other. The inexpensive biometric devices out there aren't generally very good at limiting both types of false readings, and many of the expensive ones can be tricked.

psssed90
04-20-2006, 03:57 PM
I just set up the biosafe at around lunch time. Set up was a breeze. I opened it up via thumb print over a dozen times and had my brother try half as much and he was denied all 6 times. There are two 9 volt batteries on the inside and a set of manual over ride keys just in case. The safe worked 100% (so far). You push the "on" button located on the handle and a little door pops open ready for a fingerprint. A beep sounds and the safe unlocks. There is no spring to pop the safe open so a little jerk is needed not much though. The safe doesn't seem to want to open correctly if the safe just held by the handle. It is a sleek little safe that has enough room for my Colt 380 and 45. The stationary plate will be usefull for keeping it from sliding around in the car although it would fit snuggly under my seat. Over all it is a cool little safe, a little pricey but, funtional for my needs.

FATBOY
04-20-2006, 04:14 PM
I hope you have continued success with the safe psssed90. Looks nice but $300 is steep. Those make me a little leary. I would hate for someone to cut off my thumbs to get my gun. :) :) ...........it happens in the movies ALL the time and don't even start on the retina scan. :MM :MM

jmz5
04-20-2006, 09:03 PM
lol, thats next after fingerprints

psssed90
04-20-2006, 10:42 PM
What movie was that? With the thumb? Tom Cruise.... or was that an Arnold movie? I think a bad guy would have a hard time taking my thumb. My giant schnauzer will be going through K9 classes of which adds greatly to my home defense. I would rather not use bullets if i didn't need to.

jmz5
04-21-2006, 10:54 AM
my toy poodle adds greatly to my home defense, if he isn't yipping then i know something is wrong :D
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v254/jzimmer16/petey31.jpg

psssed90
04-21-2006, 01:25 PM
my toy poodle adds greatly to my home defense, if he isn't yipping then i know something is wrong

Ain't that the truth. My other dog Onyx is a black toy poodle as well. He is 6 and a grumpy, paranoid old man. He sounds like trying to start the old Opel Cadet I used to have when I was a teen. Rrrrer Rrrrer rrrr...

Bad thing is once someone makes it past the front door all it would take is a scratch behind the ears or a milk bone.

I researched the Giant Schnauzer a bit. I like the breed for the fact that the dog has low to no shedding and is very smart. These dogs evolved to be guard dogs and have high loyal qualities to the family. Plus, a big black dog is just plain intimidating and cool to look at.

btown02
04-21-2006, 01:37 PM
Jmz5, don't knock the Toy Poodle. My wife's Toy is 3 1/4 pounds and 100 times meaner than my 142 pound Rottweiler. Her job, and she understands it very well, is to wake up the big dog if there's trouble.

jmz5
04-21-2006, 05:32 PM
My toy poodle is also meaner than any other dog i have owned, he wil bark like He** if someone is trying to get in at night, thats pretty much all he has to do is wake me up, lol
my dog is named "Petey", he is 2yrs old, that pic that is up there is right before my brown dog pushes him outa they way because he is jealous

Rypht
04-21-2006, 06:58 PM
My toy poodle is also meaner than any other dog i have owned

chihuahua (aka motorcycle cop) syndrome?

*begs for forgiveness if we have any motorcycle cops in the room*

jmz5
04-21-2006, 07:04 PM
i have only seen my dog bite 2 people tho, the neighbor kid for running 2 fast across the yard, and the fedex guy, lol