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panzermk2
03-13-2006, 08:09 PM
You know when you have no life when you are reading year old forum posts on another sight and then realize the poster is the owner of your current primary forum





What exactly is "highly engineered" about bolting a bunch of aftermarket parts together?

You are wrong. No sour grapes, just wondering why all of a sudden the 10mm is good enough for them?

Like I said, I have owned a CQB before. It isn't all it's cracked up to be. Decent gun, yes. $2k decent, definatly not. Perhaps I expected too much out of my expensive gun. Silly me.

btown02
03-13-2006, 08:15 PM
Just full circle Panzer. :D

panzermk2
03-13-2006, 09:09 PM
It is kinda wierd reading his posts since he is posting as one of us, the uncleanesd masses. And posting about nothing at all to do with FN stuff

Nosferatu
03-13-2006, 10:56 PM
I'm a certified gun nut..what can I say? :D I post on quite a few different forums.

panzermk2
03-13-2006, 11:03 PM
A big bag of NUTS, yep thats us :eek:
and I know I could get that Kimber to work

Nosferatu
03-13-2006, 11:13 PM
what Kimber?

panzermk2
03-13-2006, 11:14 PM
The 3 inch 40S&W you tried to make work as a 10mm

Nosferatu
03-13-2006, 11:18 PM
Ah...

No, there was no helping that gun. I tried everything from shok-buffs to a truckload of different recoil springs, mag springs, different loads, etc. The slide was just moving too damn fast.

Very accurate single-shot though! :)

panzermk2
03-13-2006, 11:44 PM
YEP thats why you need to change the lower lug timing so they slide and barrel stay together just that much longer.
Keep in mind for shorty 1911's they have to really reduce/shorten the
Frequency of the unlocking time to make them work WAY more the 45acp versions

anyway to late now. I have made more than one 40 to 10mm conversions so I have gotten real good at it

Nosferatu
03-13-2006, 11:55 PM
ah yeah, tried that too.

I sank way too much time & money into that gun. Would have been sweet if it worked though.

panzermk2
03-14-2006, 06:21 AM
that to and it didn't work
would have been a fun challange

panzermk2
03-15-2006, 08:17 PM
You need to check out double tap ammo 10mm. I have posted somuch about it here I know NOS and the boys suspectme of being paid by them.
This stuff is the best and is loaded to standard Norma 10mm power/psi

Caliber : 10mm

Bullet : 180gr. XTP-JHP

Ballistics : 180gr. @ 1350fps/ 728 ft/lbs- Glock 20

This though is by fare Mikes best loading. It's kinda more for hunting, but I keep my night stand S&W 1086 loaded with it

Caliber : 10mm

Bullet : 200gr XTP/JHP

Ballistics : 1250fps/ 694ft./ lbs. - Glock 20


this ammo does not have any signs of over pressure, quality is scary good.
50 round box is about 25 bucks which is what a 50 round of top shelf premium would go for and this stuff is basically custom ammo
and of course he has case prices that make it cheaper

panzermk2
03-15-2006, 11:44 PM
Letme know when you go, If I'm can get into town Ill bring my S&W610 and my witness hunter...........here piggy piggy piggy

Prolix
03-20-2006, 10:52 AM
panzer, you already know I was thinking about an EAA Witness in 10mm. Has your Witness handled those Double Tap loads? Just making sure you aren't only shooting them out of your 10mm revolver or something, since I don't know anything about how sturdy a Witness is. Figured it was worth checking on.

Jerry, your loading sounds... interesting, to say the least. I already own a GLOCK 21, so I know how the 20 would be sized, etc; therefore, I can always consider getting one of them & dropping in a Bar-Sto for a 10mm option.

Anyway, I have already heard a lot of positive comments about the 10mm round. But I really trust what you two gentlemen have to say, so this thread has had me seriously considering switching over to it as my main defensive load.

panzermk2
03-20-2006, 03:44 PM
panzer, you already know I was thinking about an EAA Witness in 10mm. Has your Witness handled those Double Tap loads? Just making sure you aren't only shooting them out of your 10mm revolver or something, since I don't know anything about how sturdy a Witness is. Figured it was worth checking on.
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I shoot them out of every gosh damn thing. You can't break a steel Witness,
LET ME REPEAT MYSELF
Unless you pack the f*cker on the space shuttle and ramit into the sun it will not break. I would bet money it would easily survive our shorter shuttle flights and "WHERE COMING IN HOT SHUTTLE LANDINGS"

How's that Dave? :D

Prolix
03-20-2006, 05:29 PM
But can it survive a Minnesota winter?!

Naw, I'm just kidding, that sounds good. I'm only trying to be sure of things if'n I'm gonna get a Witness. Y'know--since I vacation in Mesquite a lot--let's say you & I go visit JerryT someday (that's assuming he'd let me swing by), and we fire off some of his handloads... I just want my firearm to still be intact afterwards :D ... OH! And I'm concerned about my hands too -- don't get me wrong.


New debate: so the first thing my guy at the gun shop said when I said 'show me that Witness over there' was, "Stay away from the polymer frame ones." Know anything about that?

panzermk2
03-20-2006, 10:54 PM
the only thing I would do is put in a heavier reciol spring buts thats standard stuff

btown02
03-21-2006, 07:36 AM
the only thing I would do is put in a heavier reciol spring buts thats standard stuff
In the tank or the 10mm? :D

panzermk2
03-21-2006, 08:38 AM
BOTH HA! you should see the reciol spring a tank uses, talk about heavy duty

btown02
03-21-2006, 09:43 AM
BOTH HA! you should see the reciol spring a tank uses, talk about heavy duty
I bet that bad boy would be big. :)

panzermk2
03-22-2006, 04:41 PM
the coils are about 2 feet in diameter, when out of the tank they are about 15 feet long