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david b fisher
02-11-2006, 01:19 PM
On 4 feb I loaded 3 test loads on my Dillion 550
using green tiped ss109 bullets

5 feb Itest fired the following loads over my cronograph
using the factory barrel, I am going to refine the load in the 3 grain area
for use in my suppressor (FISHER ENTERPRISES)

primers- WSR
powder-WSF

3.0 grains of powder
avg of 5 test rounds
993 fps
19 fps spread

3.5 grains of powder
avg of 5 test rounds
1146 fps
70 fps spread

4.0 grains of powder
avg of 5 test rounds
1275 fps
42 fps spread

btown02
02-11-2006, 01:55 PM
Good information, thanks. Do they cycle without any problems? What size groups are you getting?

Esteves
02-13-2006, 01:35 PM
^-- +1

david b fisher
03-22-2006, 06:33 PM
I just got around to retesting the 62 grn bullets with 3.0 grns of WSF powder in the jarvis threaded barrel velocity went up to 1110 fps.

I have not seen any pressure signs and the pistol funcions flawlessly.


I am going to the big sandy machine gun shoot this weekend.


I have loaded some more 62grn bullets but now with 2.7 grns of WSF.


I also have my first suppressor completed and will have it up there along
with my cronograph to do more testing.


dave fisher

602-615-7777

Evan Stevens
03-22-2006, 10:11 PM
You may be able to safely get 1600 fps from these. This would be awesome. I will start on the ss109s after I complete my development on the 55gr loads. Is WSF faster or slower burning than HS6. I am sure a few of our reloaders will be working on this soon. We all work together sharing information to ease the development process. I have only heard of one KB on this site, and it warned all of us not to use H110 for 5.7 loads. I would like to find the heaviest bullet possible for sub sonic rounds. The older callibers use heaiver than normal bullets for their ss loads eg. 125gr .223 that reliably cycles the AR15. We must work up one step at a time to do this safely. I would like a 75gr bullet @ 1100 fps for my subsonic load. This may be possible, but in order to get to this we must work up through the 62 then 68 then 70... finding max load for each.

748
03-23-2006, 07:46 PM
I loaded some SS109's with 5gr of AA No. 9 and standard CCI primers. I did not chrono them I think they were subsonic.
Well I didn't think there would be any reason to load bullets heavier then 62gr because I did not think they would get super sonic. Glad to know I was wrong.
Next time I go shooting I will have more loaded with 5gr of AA No. 9 and CCI mag primers and more loaded with 5.2gr and 5.4gr. And I will have my chrono next time.

Dend78
06-14-2006, 05:10 PM
just wondering what the word was on the 62gr bullets i saw an older thread but it was never followed up, just wondering what the final word on the 62g bullets was. gonna be doing some test reloading as soon as i get my dies and shell holder, and i was gonna get some various bullet sizes so i could try out some different rounds thought i would try some big un's if they are worth a crap with accuracy.

btown02
06-14-2006, 05:19 PM
Read the posts above yours. I combined yours in this older thread.

Dend78
06-14-2006, 09:17 PM
thanx that was the thread i was talkin about i read it eariler for some reason thought a new thread was in order, i mean i didnt think u had enough to do :p

StormWrangler
06-26-2006, 01:02 PM
Dave,

What was your COL for the 62 gr. loads?

Observed
06-26-2006, 04:06 PM
David. Are you shooting a Five Seven or a PS90?

tctlrld
08-03-2006, 09:56 AM
David. Are you shooting a Five Seven or a PS90?

He refered to his "threaded Jarvis barrel" so I would assume it's a FiveSeveN.

becks
09-09-2006, 01:54 PM
not trying to start anything here but wouldnt loading a ss109 into a five seven case make it an ap round? or is it a speed thing that makes it ap? thanks

p99guy
09-09-2006, 03:02 PM
SS109 out of a PS90 carbine is no of different classification than a SS109 bullet out of a AR15....not AP out of a AR15, Not AP out of a PS90...its service ball ammo. There is actual
.224 AP bullets made for the .223 Remington that are of far tougher constuction than a SS109. Soft body armor just dont stop hi velocity small diameter bullets very well out of carbines........no special bullet construction needed (.30M1 carbine fmj is one example----also chambered in pistols)

SS190 in reality isnt a true AP bullet either....just a lightweight version of the SS109 62gr
(aluminum core instead of lead.) its service ball! its just the fact that its topping 2000fps and small/pointy that allows the bullet to emulate a rifle when fired from a pistol . a heavy 62gr SS109 out of a pistol would have less ability to penetrate than off the gunshop shelf SS195 would...velocity is too low at 1100 fps approx........soft armor works well into the 1600-1700 fps range. (it would be stopped) The best use it would have is for suppressor owners, who are allready NFA weapon owners and have jumped though all kinds of hoops for that tax stamp from ATF. Not the typical high risk.

Medula Oblongata
09-09-2006, 04:02 PM
In my experimentation, the 62grn loads show little promise for anything other than shooting rats or similiar rodents in the basement. The velocity is too low for it to really do anything of consequence, and because of the low velocity, frops like a brick after 20'.

55grn bullets I have gotten all the way up to 1650 - 1700 fps, and although the recoil is sharp and unpleasant (on the order of 40 cal in sharpness) the accuracy is good, and with a spitzer bullet, does significant damage to small / medium game up close. 55grn loads could be used for shooting Deer and like animals from very close (20 - 40 meters at the most).

Using heavier projectiles really negates the purpose of this weapon, which is incredibly light bullets at high velocities. If you are looking for something heavier that the standard factory bullets at comparable speed, I would recommend buying a CZ-52 in 7.62 tokarev.

Best regards!

btown02
09-09-2006, 07:47 PM
Welcome to the forum becks.

jmz5
09-10-2006, 10:34 AM
welcome to the site

becks
09-11-2006, 01:31 PM
thanks, learning alot here!

btown02
09-11-2006, 01:49 PM
thanks, learning alot here!
Glad to hear it. If we can be of any help just let us know. :)

Kogashuko
02-15-2007, 01:35 AM
Anything new with 62grn loads. I am finally getting ready to load some 5.7 and I am looking to do some subsonics. 62grn seems a little more promising as far as effectiveness in a ss load.

Medula Oblongata
02-15-2007, 02:06 AM
No, nothing new. Its as unpromising as last reported.